Podcast: Week 10 Overreactions (with Ryan McLaughlin)

All 6 classes were in the playoffs this week, so it's less overreacting and more properly reacting. Ryan McLaughlin from the Ellsworth American joins the show to talk about Camden's first ever Regional Title in football, Kennebunk's big win over Falmouth, Cony's continued dominance, and so much more.

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OK, so today's show, Ryan Mclaughlin's here.We're going to overreact to week 10.Is it week 10?It's week something or other.It's a playoffs.So it's, I guess we stopped counting the weeks.I don't know.It's a quarterfinals for some people, it's a semi finals for other people, and it was a regional final for other people.

1:15

It's all very confusing, but we'll get into it.We're going to react to the Patriots and Drake May, and somehow Drake May is the betting favorite for the MVP.I'm not really sure how that happened, but it seems a little ahead of schedule.

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2:12

I love every week people come up to me at football games like, oh, I love the podcast.Love, love what you do.Well, the way I get to keep doing it is if people subscribe to the website and do all the things.So wanted to talk a little bit about the Falmouth Kennebunk game.

2:30

Went to that this weekend because I mean, that was kind of a no brainer.Everybody knew that was going to be a great game.They'd had the 2.They had the state championship game last year and then week 1, Kennebunk beat Falmouth 14 to 10 in a thriller.This one was no different.

2:47

Kennebunk is a great atmosphere at Kennebunk.They did a fantastic job there.Lot of fun.Kennebunk comes out, comes out fast.They're up 14 nothing and you're like Jesus, just like get out of hand.This is a long drive for 14.Nothing but credit Spencer Emerson and his coaching staff.

3:06

They got they got their team turned around, Falmouth came back, got it to 14, got it tied at 14.I'm hopefully remembering the sequence of this right.And they've got all the momentum.Now I'm wondering if I have the sequence right.

3:23

Doesn't matter.OK, so crucial play in the in the third quarter, Falmouth is driving.They're inside, they're inside the five now and then they're at the I think the three on 4th and goal Trey Walker takes keeps it himself, gets stopped at the goal line.

3:44

Bang, bang play.I thought he was in live, but really, really close.Really, really close, actually, you know, let's go to the tape.

4:34

So yeah, really, really close.I don't know how you make that call in real time with complete conviction, you know, without replay because unless you've got a really good angle on it and you've got a bunch of bodies in there.

4:51

So even slowing it down, going frame by frame, at least from the angle I was at, it's hard to see if you definitively in or out.You need kind of like two or three angles where you can sort of cross, you know, reference them and like stop it here and do the whole thing.

5:09

You need like an NFL level production on the game and then you'd have be pretty sure whether or not he was in or out.But calling that live in real time really, really hard.And, you know, I mean, that's such a big play.

5:26

It's seven points.If Falmouth can get there, get gets in.If not, Kennebunk gets the ball.So they called him.They called him down and then, yeah, so then Panabunk has the ball in the later in the fourth quarter, Canabunk has the ball 4th and 15.

5:48

They pick up the full 15.They get a face mask penalty on top of it.Their quarterback, who's I think Sam Matthews is his name, manages to pick up this.You know, let's let's play the time.

6:12

Yeah, so as you can see, really struggling to get the 15 yards, gets the 15 yards, gets the face mask that Austin W punches it in on the next play and all of a sudden it's 21 to 14 and only a couple minutes left.Falmouth not done.

6:27

Trey Walker leads him down the field.Bunch of really clutch throws from him.He had, you know, he was really impressive in the fourth quarter, the whole second-half really.They score the touchdown with 20 seconds left and then their kicker who'd gotten hurt earlier in the game.

6:46

So I'm on the found the sidelines and they're working pretty hard to get this kid healthy enough to get back out there.He's also the punter kicker and like I think a linebacker or something, he goes in, they've they get him with like 3 minutes left.

7:02

They get comfortable that he can play.He goes in, misses the extra point, which just goes wide right, devastating result and it's 2120 and they can't get the onside kick and that's as devastating a way to lose a playoff game as probably possible.

7:23

So so, you know, well, new champion in Class B and I've been obviously following the found the thing for a while.Had Spencer Emerson on the podcast last year at the beginning of the year.So that's sort of in one of the stories I've been following pretty closely.

7:42

So it was, you know, it was tough for them and kudos to them.They held heads, held high, talked to them after the game and of course we talked about basketball because that's what you do.That's what you do.

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You know, once football season's over, basketball ready for basketball.Yeah.And then I went to on Saturday, I went to MDI in Camden, and Camden just blew the doors off MDI.So that's another interesting story where they're quarterback Hollis Schwalm was hurt last year and Camden somehow won their first ever regional title in football.

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They've been knocking on the door for a couple years.They got a little ways to go to catch the basketball program, but they got their first hardware in the trophy case.Kudos to them.Kudos to coach Chris Christie, who is who's one of the Vertical Race people.

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So definitely, you know, contact him because you're going to need to raise money for something and Vertical race can help you do it.And with that, let's go to my conversation with Ryan McLaughlin.My guest today is the sports reporter for the Ellsworth American and soon to be marathoner Ryan McLaughlin is here.

8:56

How's it going everybody?Great to be here.All right, so we are, you know the drill, you've done this before.We're going to overreact.There's not a lot to overreact to now.I mean, it's it's less overreacting and I think we're trending into properly reacting.

9:14

Yeah, we're kind of in that weird time where the fall sports are finishing, but we're getting right, like the Class S basketball team started practice today.So like we're in that weird time where the winter sports are getting ready to start and we still got some gold balls to hand out on the gridiron here in the next two Saturdays.

9:35

So it's kind of that little in between time.Yeah, it's a little weird.It's because there's only like the games on the weekends.There's nothing happening during the week other than the Class S practices.But it's so it feels like it should be over, but it's not over.

9:50

And yeah, we have a little bit more to overreact to.Yeah, we had two regional finals on the gridiron last week in the 8, actually 4 math going to math here in the eight man classes.

10:08

So we'll have two gold balls that'll be handed out on Saturday at Edward Little.The first one we all kind of expected in August, Stearns and Old Orchard.The second one, that's an interesting match up with Camden Hills and Spruce Mountain.

10:28

I think a lot of people, myself included, had the jammers coming out of the north, but the South was kind of a kind of a toss up and Spruce got to the gauntlet.Yeah, I'm, I thought, I thought mountain Ararat was probably going to beat Spruce, even though my spreadsheet said Bruce was favored.

10:49

And so apparently what happened is their big guy, Rennie, I think his name is, he got hurt in that game and didn't play the whole game.Yeah, I saw both teams during, you know, the regular season.I saw Spruce at Bucksport on opening night.

11:06

They looked, you know, prototypical Milltown team, very physical, likes to win the line of scrimmage, run the football and now an air rat, you know, kind of a carbon copy of Camden Hills.They like to spread it out, use their speed, get their athletes in space.

11:23

So I kind of gave Mount Ararat a little bit of the edge.But you were right.When Renee got hurt, I kind of opened the door for the Phoenix and they kicked it open.And, you know, good for them too, because I think it was two years ago, they were supposed to play MDI in a playoff game.

11:41

And their numbers were bad.And they opted out because they knew it would have been probably would have been a running clock by the start of the second-half.And now they're playing for a state title.So, you know, Devin Roberts is obviously doing a great job.He's a Mountain Valley guy from the mid 2000s on those great teams that Jim Edward coached, if you remember the Rivals documentaries with Kate back then.

12:06

So he's got that program going in the right direction and here they are playing for Gold Ball.Yeah, and somehow my picture is frozen, but we'll we'll power on.Am I frozen on yours for you?Yeah, you're frozen.That's weird, I don't.

12:23

OK.Well, hopefully it's in.Maybe it'll correct itself.Yeah.And so then if we look at the other side, Camden, like you said, a lot of people expected them to be there and they were pretty dominant for the North for pretty much all year with the exception of that GNG game.

12:44

I really, really like their team.They just came out on Saturday and just set the tone with the on both sides of the ball against a very, very good MDI team, which you can't judge by its record because they played probably the toughest schedule in all of I would say in all of eight man.

13:10

Like if you look at the games they lost at home, it was to Mount a Lake Region Camden and Orno is the other one.So they played some very, very tough teams and they had their chances and just couldn't take care of take care of the football.

13:29

And boy, Hollis Schwalm, he's a great, one of the probably the best quarterback I've seen in the three years since I've been back doing this full time.Just a dual threat.If you let him get outside the pocket, he's going to kill you with his not just with his legs, but with his vision.

13:46

He's got a big arm and he doesn't rely on just one guy.He's they've got weapons all over the field.Yeah, Braden Beveridge.I've seen Camden twice and he's been great in both of those games.And I think the big difference, like you said, Schwalm is whose name I keep thinking I'm mispronouncing, but he wasn't there last year because he was hurt.

14:08

And it's kind of hard to win without your quarterback in the playoffs.It really is and and talking to him after the game, they seem very motivated this year because if you remember they lost to MDI in that same game at their at Camden Hills two years ago.

14:29

And like that MDI team was that was insanely good team, especially defensively.I think the only touchdown they allowed in the whole post season was in that Camden Hills game and that came after a blocked punt that the Jammers were covered inside the 10 yard line.

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So that's how that's how good that MDI team was.But the jammers just they were just so motivated and you know, don't be shocked if they had a gold ball to that trophy case this weekend.

15:02

I like their chances.And there's a lot of gold balls in that trophy case already, but none of them are for.There are no that football program is still somewhat, somewhat young.I can't, I think, is it in me or Ernie Clark, who did the story at the BDN when they were getting their foot off the ground?

15:23

I think I want to say Jeff Hart was still the basketball coach back then.He's the AD now.Yeah, but I think so.Been around I think what 1520 years some somewhere in that ballpark.That sounds right.Sure.I don't remember.

15:40

I don't.I think I was out at.I think I was Pennsylvania then, so I was completely out of the loop.But yeah, they've won, you know, a bunch of basketball ones.They've won about 800 mountain biking state championships.

15:56

Because I don't, I have a theory that there's only like 4 schools who do it and they just trade championships every year.But they've got a banner up in the up in the gym with all those mountain biking state titles.They do, and they've always been a soccer power to like, if you look at what their girls soccer programs done, you know, recent years, yeah, good players.

16:22

They've turned out.Yeah, and I think they won it all last year in soccer, but got knocked out early this year.The girls have gotten knocked out by Bangor, I think in the regional final the last two years.

16:38

Bangor's is Bangor repeated.Oh no, the boys, I mean the boys.The boys were the.Oh, the boys.Oh, the boys.Yeah.No, you're right.No, that.No, no, you're right.You're right.You're right.I thought you were talking about the girls, but they developed a great rivalry with, you know, Lewis and obviously, but you know, soccer's a funny game and they got, you know, knocked out and that's just what happens.

17:08

I mean, soccer's a weird game.Like there's so little scoring there is and you know, you get 2.I don't want to like it's hard to say, but fluky goals and you know, I think in that game bucks for hit like two or three, two or three posts and the goalie was at.

17:34

It was a microcosm of their game against Foxtrot last year, where Jasmine Hall just stonewalled them and Box Rock won in double overtime.Yeah, if you get a, if you get a hot goalie.Crumbles sometimes I guess.Yeah, you get a hot, I'm sorry, Hut keeper and, you know, some luck on your side.

17:52

You hit a couple crossbars.I've been to soccer games where, you know, you're like, well, this team should be up five to nothing and they're down 1 nothing.And you're like, how did this happen?They've been completely dominating the game.But that's, you know.

18:10

There was a there was a there was a game where where the Herman girls came to Ellsworth late in the late in the season.I remember this vividly because I think it was 10 minutes before the game started.

18:27

I get a text from my wife saying that her her health test came back benign, so that was a huge weight off both of our shoulders and.Good news, I think.It was Lizzie Bowles had a freak.Yeah, and Lizzie Bowles had a free kick late in regulation that went just wide and for like 2 seconds after the ball left her foot, I'm like, this is going in.

18:55

Like Jesus is somehow going to will this ball in That's that's you're right about it's you never know.It's it's like hockey.Yeah, hockey even more so.You can run into a hot goalie and it can be even a bigger factor because you, how many times did the hockey play see a hockey, a goalie stand on his head and you're like, well, it was 52 shots to 12, but we lost.

19:21

Yep, somehow.Yep.Which is what happened to the which is what happened to the Black Bears on Saturday.Oh, did they?Oh, I hadn't seen that.Well, what are you gonna do?Let's move on to OOB and Stearns.That's the one that they wouldn't have even given you not odds on it on DraftKings, because it would have been such such a bad return.

19:45

You know, it'd be like betting on Cooper to be the number one pick.Absolutely.Like those, those two teams are just, they're just so fun to watch.I haven't seen either of them, so I'm excited for Saturday to see to finally get to see OOB play because it's too far to drive to watch someone win 70 to nothing, you know, to go all the way down to OOB.

20:09

Yeah, absolutely.Yeah, absolutely.Yeah, so and so I went to Stearns where semi because they played Bucks for it.Yeah.And you look at this, it was 44 to zip, but you know, Bucks for had a few drives inside the 20 in the first half and just, you know, couldn't, you know, finish the deal.

20:31

But you know, Stearns has, you know that they have Cohen Raymond, who's a great tailback, great speed.They still have the pelkey kid who can do a little bit of everything for him.So, and they're very, they're very tough defensively, but I think this game's going to come down to who can force turnovers and get off the field because both of these teams can just like the scoreboard up.

20:58

Right.And so they played earlier this year, I think it was, I'm going to say Week 3, and I think at, at Stearns.And it was close at halftime and then Millinocket and then OOB ported on in the second-half.They did, yeah.

21:16

I think the war of attrition kind of kind of took over because I think the seagulls just have a little more depth and depth then then as Stearns does.I mean, is it?That that could be a factor.Is it going to be similar to the the MDI Camden game where it's like Stearns just is going to have to play perfect?

21:37

They're they're not going to be able to like turn the ball over and get away with it, stuff like that.I would, I would have to say so I really think Stearns is going to have to finish drives like you can't like they're going to once they get inside the 20, they're going to have to find a way to punch it in because like the big plays you saw during the North postseason, I just don't think of experienced team like Old Orchard is going to get those out.

22:04

So for Stearns, you got to find a way to finish, finish drives.You can't just move it in between the 20s and turn it over on downs in the red area.Yeah, yeah.You don't want to do that because OOB will put up 70 on you And yeah, that's so that's can.

22:22

I think no and I think the other X Factor too.And I know Sterns will not use this as an excuse and I know my relatives mill knock it may come after me for this, but I think the drive is going to be an X Factor because in the bus who can concerns survive the bus legs because like from Old Orchard to Edward Little, it's the math is mapping it's by about like 40-50 miles, if that and sounds right.

23:00

So like an hour maybe?Yeah, yeah.And Stearns, I would say a good 2 1/2 because you need an hour just to get to Bangor and then easily another hour and a half to get you, to get you off the Pike in Auburn.

23:18

So and but they do have the later game.So it's 2:30.The MPA kind of gave the minute man a little bit of a break in that context, so.I, I think they should do this for basketball too.And I've been telling whoever will listen to this that like if you've got, if you, let's say Stearns, right, and let's say they're going to, they were in Augusta or something.

23:45

And then for the quarterfinals, don't give them the, the last game just because that's where the, the match up says they should be.Put them in one of the middle games.You know, put the, if you got Coney and Gardner playing each other, put them in the late game at at the Augusta Civic Center, for example, because that's an easy trip.

24:05

Put, you know, Bangor Brewer in that game.And conversely, the, you know, conversely the the 8:00 AM game or the 10 AM game, whatever time it is.Yeah.Because, you know, yeah, it's like your grandparents trying to drive this.And, and all it takes is 1 snowstorm or 1 little dusting to screw things up because I can't speak for those people, but I don't like I-95 when the weather is terrible.

24:33

And not everybody can afford to pull off the Interstate in Waterville or Bangor and, you know, give a Hilton or a holiday in their credit card for a night.So that's the catch.That's the catch 22.And then the other part was when you get a situation where the on Friday night the boys team has the late game and then Saturday morning the girls team for the same school has the early game and they don't get to go to each other's games.

25:01

No that makes absolutely zero sense because it's a lot of times the OP the the team that's not playing will make up the student section for the for whoever is playing like like I see this a lot with Ellsworth and MDI, especially with MDI.

25:23

Yeah.All right, let's move on.You want to go to D next?Let's.Let's go to D Let's go to D.Yeah.We got Winthrop Morse it looks like in the South.So Morse is killing me.

25:42

They were.They were another team that moved up from 8 man.I have gotten five playoff games wrong in football statewide this year, which is crazy.Two of them are Morse.I'm Owen 2 on Morse and I'm like 21 and three on everybody else.

26:03

The shipbuilders are sinking you.Yeah, my uncle played for them, not in basketball, and so they should be nicer to me is all I'm saying.Or maybe I should be nicer to them?Is maybe the the?Way to look at it.I remember my fresh, my, my freshman year at Brewer, we broke a long losing streak and it was, it was Morse that we beat.

26:27

I think it was a, it was Morse that we beat.It was in like maybe back in 1999.The good old days.We had a situation here where Madomic lost to Morse.This is in the 90s.They lost to Morse by 50 early in the year and then beat them in the in the second game and Moose crossing the gardening.

26:50

Center.They put the score up on the sign and left it up there for like 3 months of.Course they did.It's just the exact amount of high school basketball pettiness you like.Right, but they've they've been a surprise.

27:08

They came back up from, you know, from 8 man this year and you know, I, I expected Winthrop to be, you know, in this game, but but definitely not Morse, that's for sure.I don't think anyone saw Morse in this game.

27:25

No, however in the North I think that's what most people had in had in August this.Yeah, Winslow, I think every week that I've done this at the consensus from the guest is better.Yeah, it's going to be, it's going to be Winslow and Baps at the end.

27:43

Yeah, yeah.And you know, and those that might be AI feel like that might be a shoot out because just looking at the just looking at the at the stats, I think Winslow's the number 2 scoring offense among eleven man teams in the state, just only behind Coney.

28:06

And that sounds right.You know, John, John Baps is obviously very, very well coached.You got to give Daniel O'Connell his flowers.He's done a just a remarkable, remarkable job with that program in the, you know, decades since he's been there.

28:23

So I think they want to they went from O and forever to A state championship in just a few years back in 2008.So that was but that I think this game you could flip a coin.

28:41

Well, they played earlier this year and Baps blew him out.Would be.Yeah.Would be my hesitation on calling it a coin flip because they went up there.I think that was in Bangor and I I think it was like 40 to 8 or something.

28:58

Oh yeah, no, you're right.But Winslow's a proud program with a lot of traditions, so it'll be interesting to see what they can do to, you know, keep it, keep it close and maybe pull an upset.Wait, is that right?

29:15

I think my model has Winslow winning that.Make sure that's doing the right thing.That's strange.Yeah, talking to Mike Mandela cross country a couple weeks ago, he says he likes Winslow's chances, too.

29:33

Huh.Yeah, that's what it's got.I'll have to take a look at that later.Yeah, Weird, weird, weird, weird.It's.Going to be an interesting game, yeah.All right, so I got that.I wasn't covering Maine hockey that I wasn't covering Maine hockey that night.

29:49

That might might be the one to go to just just as a fan, but I'll be at the alpha on.Oh yeah, I'm going to have to look into that.That's has Winslow ranked.Really.OK.It's always fun when I find something strange in my spreadsheets.

30:06

Live on his podcast and it's just great content.That's Murphy's Law for you.Yeah, Yeah.That's really, I'm going to have to look at that one when we get off when we get done here.All right, so let's move on to everyone's favorite Class, C.

30:24

Yes, Class C has been just a delight.It has been.So what are?We doing now 2 Great we got Herman and Levitt and let's.See, that's going to be a great one.

30:40

And then Greeley Wells.And we got Greeley Wells.Yep, really another team that came up from 8 man this year.Yeah, they're trying.And they won eight man last year, which is crazy to.It's just mind boggling to me that they could just so quickly adjust to 11 man.

30:57

Yeah, but you know, I saw them in the state game, I think it was two years ago.That's an MDI beat.And you know, I thought they were and they just ran into a buzz saw, but I thought they were another year away.And last year they did what they did.And here they are, the number one seed in Class C Well deserved.

31:15

Yeah, they blew out madomic on in the quarterfinals this weekend.So little scary moment there that was relayed to me by as you might imagine, everyone Owen Dosti, who is 1 of madomic starters in basketball helmet pops off mid play, someone lands on him and they end up taking him off the field in a in a stretcher and.

31:41

I'm sure, I'm sure, I'm sure Nick Dipatsi's blood pressure was up just a little bit.Nick Dipatsi's blood pressure starts up here and and then stays up here, and it doesn't really go true.No.Yeah, apparently he is all clear is what I'm hearing.

32:00

So that's a relief because you, like you never want to see anyone get hurt for any reason.But jeez, if they have to bring the ambulance out, that's scary.That's scary.That's always scary, always scary.

32:16

But I want to get to this Levitt Hermann match up because I think that's going to be probably the game of the week this week, if if not pretty close.You see a lot of converse controversy.

32:31

The first time they played with the the the touchdown that maybe wasn't or most likely wasn't that gave the Hornets that dub to the that's a coin flip for sure.

32:48

But you know, and it's grip.Kyle Gallant's done a great job with that program at Herman and you know, a lot of cojones with that onside kick to start their game against the comas last week to go set the table for.

33:03

Yeah, but it's hard to go bet against Levitt on their home field.They've been in the last what, 6 regional finals I think.It just seems like that's when their season starts is the regional.Final Yeah.

33:21

And you know, they're obviously very, extremely well coached.So, and I like I'm going to take Levitt and a close one.They seem to be improving as the year goes on.I've seen them three Times Now and they looked better each time.

33:39

They always, they always peak in November.Like that's just.So according to the Stacks Index, it's not quite the game of the day, because the game of the day is Westbrook and Kennebunk.Oh, OK.

33:55

Which is looks like that could be a really, really good game The.You got a first first time regional finalist against the team with experience Yeah, in the kind of monk Rams there so.So let's we'll finish Class C first cuz so we also Greely and Wells.

34:12

So this is 2 defending champions, right?Am I?Yeah.Yeah, 2 defending champions, you don't get that a lot.No.You know and and neither of them are the defending.Champion.In this class like they're not.

34:29

Even like we're going to see a lot of that.We're going to, we're going to see a lot of that this year with all this re reshuffling and reclassification in the works.But I think I think that's going to be a game to watch.You know, I like really it's, you know, home field advantage.

34:50

You know, Wells is always tough, especially defensively.They're going to try to control the line of scrimmage.But I just think the the Rangers just have too many.They just have too many athletes.They're going to get their guys in space.I think they pull away late, win by a couple, by two or three.

35:06

Source.I believe the picture behind me is the end of the Greeley Wells game, I'm pretty sure.Earlier.This year.OK.Which was a pretty good game.And you know, Greeley could have lost that game.

35:22

They could have if some things have bounced differently in that one, they could have lost it.They were down going in in the final possession of the half.They were down 14-7 and then Ben Kyles made it insane catch at the end of the half to tie it up and then they were off to the races.

35:39

But if he doesn't make that catch, who knows?Could be a different game.Could be a different game.You know, It was one of those ones where I was going like into the half, like before he made that catch.I was like, jeez, the Greeley could be down 21, seven here.And I think they've outplayed them.

35:55

And it's just one of those things like like in soccer where if you get a couple scores.Yeah, all right.And Wells like, like I said, just has that championship pedigree, he said.Yeah, so if you've got to pick someone out of this foursome, Levitt, Herman, Greeley and Wells, who do you like?

36:17

I would probably because of their pedigree, because of their pedigree, I would give a slight edge to Levitt just because they they peak at the right time.They're extremely like he's one of the probably one of the top five or top three high school football coaches in the state.

36:40

So I would prob I I the Hornets are my pick.Very tight, Very tight podcast Hathaway is Did I?Did I tell you the story of 1?Of the best.My, I, my, I took my kids to the madomic Levitt game and he, he met Hathaway and then I had him do the pre thing, pre video and he predicted madomic would win.

37:05

And I was like, you didn't tell you didn't say that when coach Hathaway was over here.He was like just got mortified.And then he asked after the game if they had a superpower because Levitt won by so much.Kind of the opposite of my child going up to going up to Grace Jaffrey and giving her a high 5 at a game a couple of years ago.

37:31

Like in the game?No hesitation, no shyness like after the during postgame interview.That would be.That'd be trickier.During the game, one of those one of those school awkward school holidays where you know you times you play at like 4:00 in the afternoon.

37:50

So he he came with me to A to an Ellsworth girls game.It was my first first year back so that was fun.Reece when he was like 1 and was super cute.He was at a preseason game or maybe a summer game against that Greeley was playing in and Anna De Wolf was like, like, flirting with him, kind of like, like.

38:15

You know.During a time out, because she's a redhead, he's a redhead.And then she turned the ball over and my joke was that.Oh geez.She's the only one in Maine who can guard Oh.Lord, that's too cute.All right, let's move on to BB.

38:32

NB this like Coney?Oh my goodness.Coney is just a buzzer.It's ridiculous. 400 you're at 61 points.That's just like you get you pick your poison with them.

38:49

Like who do you?Yeah, like.Who do you?Who do you stop?Like Pryberg's going to have to play perfect and then some.And then it still might not be enough.I'm talking Super Bowl 42 level here.

39:11

And Parker Moran might just be winning the Fitzy.You know, if he keeps this up, it's going to be hard to argue against him.Yeah, absolutely.He's the best player in the state by far in my opinion.Yeah, and he's a pretty good basketball.

39:29

Player just look the way he's got that offense going yeah good night right so then my kids got his Coney right on so I think.Oh, there you go.Then on the other side, the South is where it gets interesting.

39:45

I was at the Falmouth Kennebunk game, which was an instant classic as everyone suspected it might be.And it was like the perfect game for me for what I do because it was super close.Came down to the wire, had a controversial call that I got video of that I could put on Facebook and and get people all riled up.

40:06

So it's like the trifecta.Yeah.And that was like, I, I talked to, I'm going to talk about it when I do the intro, but that's an impossible call to make if you're the officials because it's, it's a Bang, Bang play.

40:22

It really is.And like, it's such a big play, you know, it's like.It really was and.Yeah.And turned out to be a huge turning point in the game.

40:39

And you know, the Rams took advantage.So you know, we got to give them.It's a tough call against Falmouth, you know, defending state champion.But you got to give Catabunk some credit.Yeah.And you know, there was a stretch there because Catabunk was up 14, nothing.And then Falmouth came all the way back where you sort of felt like all the momentum.

40:59

Well, you didn't feel like all the all the momentum was with Falmouth.And they kind of found a way to turn it around, put together a drive, converted a fourth and 15 on a quarterback scramble, which was incredible and just had barely enough.

41:19

And you, you got to give Falmouth some, you know, some credit for fighting back and you know, you're a defending state champ.They're not going to go away.And, you know, the Rams obviously responded and made some plays and like, but how about Westbrook?

41:37

Like it's, yeah, hard to believe they've never been in a regional final.I didn't realize that until someone told me like 2 weeks ago that that was the case.So these are these are some pretty bright lights for Westbrook against a very good Kennebunk team that used to being there.

41:57

How?How do you?Even so, you have to.How do you even coach that up?That's going to be the challenge I think for Westbrook is getting.You know, you can say like coaches will tell us over and over again, oh, it's just another game, it's this, it's that and blah, blah, blah.

42:15

But like like these are 15/16/17 year old kids.This is a game played by humans.Westbrook has never been in this kind of game before, so they're going to have to, I feel, get off to a good start.

42:33

They can't get behind the 8 ball, especially at home.They can't let those lights get too bright.They've got to get ahead of the 8 ball and I think, you know, get some, maybe get a turnover early, and they got to take care of the football.Yeah, it's like you said, Kennebunk's got the experience factor.

42:54

Yeah, and if they get down 14, nothing like Falmouth did, that's going to be a lot tougher to make that climb back into it.Yeah, that reminds me of the 2004.

43:10

I think it was a yes.The 2004 Brewer team, they were in that same boat against Winslow in the regional final.It was up that Brewer and Winslow came up and shot us out because we had never been in that type of type of game before.

43:27

But we came back.Of course, everyone at Brewer knows.We came back the next year and we won the state title and we beat Winslow at their place to win the regional title, which felt better than winning the gold ball honestly, because we could never beat them when I was in school there and it was frustrating as heck.

43:51

But.Kind of what that remind this game reminds me of.They always talk about in the NBA, like when you looked at the Thunder last year and you know, just a team that's not been through all the stages and you've got to you, you know, you can't your first run in the in the play offs, you're not going to win the whole thing because you've got to have some battle scars and, you know, some heartbreaking, you know, Eastern Conference final losses and whatnot.

44:23

And that's why when but don't.Tell them that.Yeah, well, it went two years ago when Minnesota was making that run.I'm like, they're not going to go from a first round exit to the NBA Finals.This is not happening.No, all right.Who?

44:38

So who do you like in B?I'm going to have to go with Coney.You know, been the best team all year, got the best player.I think they finish it off and bring that gold ball back to Augusta and I think Parker wins, wins the fitsy.

45:00

Interesting, Interesting.All right, let's now move to Class A.Yeah, we got some regional finals coming up in Class A here.Yeah, OK.

45:16

So.Rematch.We have Portland Bangalore and we have Thornton Academy and Bonnie Eagle.Yeah.So Portland has the player that everyone thought was going to win the Fitzy at the beginning of the year, Cordell Jones.

45:34

He's had an up and down year because he was to get, he was a Gatorade player of the year last year.I'm pretty sure Portland won the first time.These two teams played by a lot.I seem to remember it not not being close.It wasn't, it was not close.

45:53

So you know, this game is obviously it, this game is at Fitzy.You know, Bangor's got a good quarterback and Kyle Johnson, but he's got a he's got to be, he's got to be the guy like he's got to play well.Otherwise, it's going to wind up like it did in the regular season.

46:11

Yeah.And this is this is at Fitzy, I believe, right?Yeah, it's at, Yeah, yeah, Portland's the number, your number one seed.Yeah.OK, so then on the other side is the interesting 1, Thornton Academy and Bonnie Eagle.

46:26

They played earlier.They played a couple weeks ago.Thornton Academy won somewhat convincingly.Yeah, but I mean, I was there.Thornton Academy was the better team, but you could really see the path where Bonnie Eagle wins that game because they had a 60 yard touchdown pass wiped out with by a penalty and not like a hold.

46:50

I think it was like an illegal procedure or something someone was like off the.Line 11 of.Those it was.It was not.It was not.The penalty did not fit the crime.There was a a long Thornton Academy drive where they just kept converting like 3rd and fifteens over and over again and Bonnie Eagle just couldn't get off the field.

47:11

And I think you flipped those two drives and we were talking about a different game.Absolutely.And it's hard to beat A-Team twice, you know, in in any season, especially in the post season.And I really feel like this, I don't want to say it's state championship and a half, like no disrespect to Portland and Bangor, but I feel like these are the probably the two best team football teams in the state, Thornton and Bonnie Eagle.

47:41

And this game could go either way.And it's going to come down to who makes the least amount of mistakes.Yeah, these two teams know each other like.What also happened in that game is Bonnie Eagle fumble the second-half kickoff.So it's you know, they always talk about the thing the Patriots would always try to do is finish the half with the first half with the score and then get the ball and score your first the double score.

48:04

Well, they got the reverse of that where they had a score wiped out by a penalty on the last drive of the half and then fumble the way.The second-half kick off and gave Thornton Academy a short field which like the.Worst scenario of that.And I feel like Bonnie Eagles not going to make those same mistakes twice, like they're just too well coached, they're too talented.

48:25

So I feel like this is going to be, this is going to be a fourth quarter game.I can see that, yeah.And the last time and part of it might be mental for Bonnie Eagle.They haven't beaten Thornton Academy in a while.The last time was in a state championship game.

48:42

So there's a little bit of that big trying to beat your Big Brother and you have to 1st convince yourself that you can beat your Big Brother before you can actually do it.So that'll be, I think one of the challenges for Bonnie Eagle is can they, can they get those kids to truly believe it that they especially a couple weeks after losing to them by 20?

49:07

Yeah, and that's going to be the challenge, I think.But I think the Scots are going to have a little bit of a chip on their shoulder after that regular season match up.I still think Thornton wins in a close one.But like I said, it's going to be a fourth quarter game and somebody's going to have to make a play It's.

49:27

Not.Going to be a three touchdown game.If Thornton can get a lead and just keep giving the ball to Conor Ryoub, then I mean, he had 300 yards in that game.And that's going to be the ultimate thing for the Scots.Like you can't let Thornton get a multiple score lead and just control the line of scrimmage and just ground and pound you into the into the offseason.

49:54

Like you got to find a way to create create something.And not turn the ball over because if you give Thornton Academy.Short fields they're going to.Score on you.That's what happened to Portland.Portland kept giving him short fields and it was a disaster.Yeah.All right, so look at, look at that.

50:10

We we got through all of them.Yeah.How is so you're running?A marathon.Well, pivot, you're running this marathon.We were talking about this the other day.Philadelphia Marathon is your marathon debut.Philadelphia.Yep.Philadelphia What?

50:26

Did I say it is?OK.You said Philly.OK, all right.What is your time?What is your time goal?What's your A goal, your B goal?Well, what are we shooting for here?The A goal is to be on the rocky steps with a metal around my neck on on that Sunday afternoon.

50:50

The B goal is to be under 4 hours.OK, it's pretty good for a.One of their own debut.One of the big reasons I chose this one is it's I think it's ranked in the top five marathons in the country for a first if it's your first marathon.

51:10

Oh, what?What about it?Yeah, Like, why is it because there's cheese steaks?Do you have cheese steaks at the?Is that?Is that it?I wish I'll be going right to I'll be going right to Gino's after after I finish probably, but it's.

51:26

Probably really big there on board.Yeah, but the elevation gain is right around I think 700 which isn't it sounds, you know, challenging but one of but it but doing all the training here in Bangor Brewer that it's going to feel like a pancake.

51:46

So I think one of my long runs a couple weeks ago, the elevation game is something like 1200.Yeah, that's.And I always crawl and I always do both, both cities on, on those long runs just because of the square mileage in Bangor.

52:02

It's just what it is.And like being a Brewer guy, I know those roads like the back of my hands.That's just where I like to like to train and.You could, you could come get one the burl and that's.Oh yeah. 15-15 hundred feet of elevation for 13 miles so.

52:19

I think, yes, yeah, yeah, there's a half in Lemoyne that's pretty close to that.I think they run it in, I want to say early March.Yeah, I've seen that one.Yeah, it's there.It's lower, it's less elevation.

52:35

I know that because I because when I started telling people it was the heart, ours was the hardest.People would be like, there's one in Lemoyne.And so I looked at their course map.I'm like, not as hard.No.But it's still it's.The other, the other big, yeah, the other big draw to I think was it's in between seasons, so to speak.

52:57

So it's not like a Sunday where you have to worry about being in a gold ball game and then catching a red eye flight and then running 26.2 miles on, you know, 2-3 hours of sleep, which which ironically.

53:15

Ended or you run it and then Monday's then.Giving week is on, right, 'cause that's the other Thanksgiving week is on the other side.And we actually get Thanksgiving and Black Friday.Like we don't get veteran's day, but we get Black Friday, which I like better.

53:32

Yeah, we have this 'cause, you know, I like to have that day after Thanksgiving just to chill and do nothing.And so I was able to just use PTO on for the the other days that we can just say, hey, let's just sleep on the train coming back.

53:55

Yeah.So with the government shutdown, there's no way of getting on an aircraft.Yeah, I wouldn't get on an airplane that right now.That's geez, that seems like a bad idea.It was the Amtrak was way cheaper.That's how my brother lives in DC and that's how he goes anywhere on the East Coast.

54:13

Yeah, it makes.Sense because.It's way, yeah, way cheap, cheaper.OK.And then I also know that, right?Oh, sorry.No, go ahead.OK, so I also know that you write about the about the Patriots.

54:30

How surprised were you by the Bucks game?I want to say I was shocked, but not really shocked just because, you know, for a couple of reasons, like who does Baker Mayfield have to throw to right now?

54:49

Like, like Tony Romo said it perfectly yesterday.Just stick Gonzales in man coverage against the Buca and just dare these other guys to beat ya 'cause, you know, no Mike Evans, no Bucky Irving, no Chris Godwin.

55:05

So, and I knew the the Pats, they were going to have to weather the storm early.I wasn't shocked when Tampa Bay went down and scored on that first drive.And, you know, Drake may kind of struggled a little bit those first couple drives, but I think once they got the score to Kyle Williams, that really set the table for the rest of the game.

55:26

But one thing they're going to have to do better, and Romo really harped on this, was keeping their foot on the gas.Like a lot of the like you, I saw it in the Atlanta game.They kind of took their foot off the gas a little bit and the Falcons got back into it.

55:48

Yeah, how, how much do you think it's going to help Trevion Henderson to have those two breakout runs?Oh, big time.Like from a confidence standpoint, like he was.I feel like he's been really inconsistent but that's why they drafted him to make those X plays.

56:07

Like the speed he has is just outstanding and it was just only a matter of time before he was going to pop one and he popped two of them.Yeah, I've been betting him every week to get a touchdown and 60 rushing yards and this is the first time he's done it.

56:25

And, and I think it was maybe my doing because I went for a run at halftime and I missed the touchdown because I didn't get back in time for my run.So maybe a little bit of the credit goes here is all I'm saying.

56:42

Yes, that's where I'm thankful I have YouTube TV because I can just if I get a run in during a game, I can just, you know, hop, go to the Y and hop on the tread and just put my phone on the on the thingy on the stand on the treadmill or just, or just pop up my app and just listen to it if I'm outside.

57:06

Yeah, I have YouTube TV and I just figured I'd get back in time because I only did a mile because my hips been killing me.That's fair.That's fair.And I looked at, I look at my phone and I'm like, how are they already playing?How, how do we have a touchdown?So I've rewound it, watched it.Right.Perfect.

57:22

Yeah, yeah.So it worked out OK, but yeah, I think I thought that was impressive.I'm can't believe from where we were last year that people were like legitimately talking about Drake May as the MVPI.Think that's just wild.He just needed coaches and pieces.

57:39

That's all he needed.Just coaches and pieces.Yeah.All right.So let me ask you one more question.How what's your impression, Ben of Cooper flag in the NBA so far?And follow up question, is it all Jason Kidd's fault?

57:58

I wouldn't say it's Jason Kidd's fault.Cooper's doing, you know, look what he's got around him.Like Kyrie's not going to be back until probably the midpoint of the season.And I think I just read something recently that AD is going to be gone for a significant amount of time and I.

58:21

Think so, yeah.Cooper's not playing his natural position.He's he's playing point guard, so.But to me that just shows the versatility he has and where he can and all different places on the floor that The Mavericks can put him.

58:41

But they've just got nothing around him in the West is just so loaded.Yeah.So and then every every couple games there's a graphic.It's like.Youngest.Youngest since LeBron James to do this and this and this and you're like, oh, OK, yeah, maybe he's not struggling at all.

58:59

I I did.See a graphic?I did see a graphic that listed like his high school record, and I'm like, did that not?That doesn't seem to include his one year at Nokomis because my Brewer witches got him in his first game.Yeah.That's true, yeah.

59:14

They only included Vermont verdict here.Remember when we were all wondering if he could beat Brewer at the Civic Center?Like that was a legitimate question people were asking.It was, it was all right.

59:30

And now we got what, 2 weeks?2 weeks until basketball starts again.To how Someone asked me this the other day.How long into the season do you think it will be before you figure out where everybody is?

59:49

Honestly, this year, especially in BN, probably not until the end of the season, they're pretty close.Like like I was talking to, I was talking to Dawson Curtis at the state volleyball championships.He's going to be 1 of Ellsworth's best interior guys this year.

1:00:06

And he was telling me that the rugged schedule that they're going to be playing, like they're going to be playing some eight teams this year.I think they have Belfast on their schedule too.That's going to you might see and be N the one seed, be a 12 or 13 win team.

1:00:23

That's how.Like especially on the girls side, that girls BN is going to be the region of death.Yeah.Yeah, I can see that.Yeah, we know who we know who the best player is, and that's Maddie Provost.

1:00:41

But it's the question is who's going to be because there's not going to be any prelims.It's going to be 1 to rake at the Bangor and that's and that's it.And you're going to see a good team go home early, I feel.Yeah, I think AS Girls is going to be a gauntlet too.Especially now in BN girls with Knock on wood with Ellsworth.

1:01:03

Healthy.Yeah, that'll be a big difference.Sid Mason in the back court is going to be an astronomical differences here because you talk about a three headed monster with her.

1:01:21

You still got Lizzie Bowles who just connected to Hudson.You still got magly and and you still got the Austin Atherton who is was a vicious ring bounder last year.Like she was one of their like she's a volleyball player too.

1:01:39

She was one of their net.Like I don't know what the heck you call this position like a net front specialist who would always go for go for kills and stuff like that.Like, she can jump out of the gym and you look at Mount dessert, their questions going to be in the middle because, you know, you lose Lexi Tozier to graduation, but they're probably going to have one of the best back courts in that class with Lily HAMP, only a sophomore, but showed a lot of moxie the freshman a year ago and he got that younger Norwood, Justin's Justin's daughter there.

1:02:21

And, you know, Herman Herman has another new.I think this is Herman's fourth coach in four years, Marissa Kelly.Yeah, I think this, at least this is the third coach they've had in the three years I've been back.They had Tim Thor, Tim Thornton two years ago.

1:02:39

They had Liza last year.And now you got Marissa, Marissa Kelly.But I feel like the team people aren't talking about and should be talking about is Erskine.Yeah.Regional finalists last year, they got their whole, they got a lot of a lot of players back.

1:02:58

They're going to have a chip on their shoulder, I feel after, yeah, after Caribou blew them out in the regional final last year.If they're and if their fans can not get kicked out of games, that would help too.Absolutely.

1:03:14

You know, and, and I think, I think those four teams, I think that's your top four.Like either, either way, like Lawrence, Mount Desert, Ellsworth and Erskine, I think those are the four, the four best teams are going to be the four best teams in that class.

1:03:33

Yeah.It'll be interesting to see Lawrence in the tournament, considering the last two years.Yeah, those have gone.Yeah, like.Talk about.Talk about being mad and having a chip on your.Shoulder, yeah, absolutely.

1:03:48

And you know, John Baps, no Jatani, she's at Bates now.So it's going to be a question with them if who can, who's going to be that go to person to score.Old Town's always an interesting team.

1:04:06

They will like the clog things up a bit there.Kony and Akomas, they're wildcards.I don't know, Kony should be a probably a top five team.Isn't Coney and A are they and B?No one knows.

1:04:24

I think it was then Lawrence, Nicholas and Gardner that are the.Went down new.Kids on the Block.New Kids on the Block this year?Yeah.I I probably have it on this computer.I'm sure I do.Let me say I do.They are in B They're the biggest school in B at 6:47.

1:04:46

When you look on the boys side, that's that's going to be an interesting, you said it's going to be another region of death too.And you look at MD, the best players, probably James Witham, MDI junior, you know, question is who besides him are going to be the guys who can put the ball in the basket because you know, a lot of a lot of teams are probably going to throw jump defenses at him.

1:05:16

You know, Ellsworth, I think will have the best front court, especially now that they they got Colby Eaton from the GSA just down the road there.So with, you know, him and Curtis and Jackson Berry got a solid top three and.

1:05:35

Gardeners got their best team in probably 30 years.Gardner and I think there was a showcase on Indian somewhere on Indian Island this weekend and I just from some of the talk on social media, Herman looked pretty good.

1:05:52

Mason Kenney looked the Kenney brothers look pretty good.So that you can never kind of Mark Reed team out.They'll be tough defensively.Especially was resurgent last year.Yeah, I think Ellsworth's got them on their schedule too, Probably.

1:06:11

Yeah, yeah, they're going to be a Tony Parker Moran.Yeah, yeah.I feel like they'll be a, they'll be a team that's fun to watch that likes to get up and down the up and down the basketball court.I would.Coney's got a really good freshman.

1:06:28

Yeah.Braithwaite that's I don't know if I said that right, but this is from what a multiple people have told me.This is the best freshman class maybe in the history of the state.So that'll be super exciting to see.Yeah, I think Chance Mercier mentioned a kid coming up for Ellsworth.

1:06:47

I'm blanking on his name.I'll have to ask Matt when I talk to him.But there's a another freshman it looks like that there's going to be to watch out for down there this year.And they're going to have a chip on their shoulder, I think, after Old Town knocked him out of the tournament last year when they basically couldn't throw the ball in the ocean.

1:07:12

It was a microcosm of the regional final between the girls teams the year before that.That's not when you want to go cold is in the tournament.No.Speaking of and Grace Jaffrey picked up rate where she left off a double, double and nice their opening game on, I think it was on on Saturday, 35 and 11:00.

1:07:35

Nice.She's crushed down there.There'll be a battle, a battle of Ellsworth and Bangor on Saturday, which I'll be going to in between humane things, Saint Joe's and Hassan women got Lily Bean and Abby Radel facing off.

1:07:55

Nice.So that'll be, I feel like that'll feel like a lot of folks from Downey to be making their way up here for that one.That'll be a interesting one.I keep saying to myself, I should go to some college games to see, you know, where there's a bunch of main kids playing.

1:08:13

And then I look at my schedule and I'm like, I don't know when that's going to happen.Yeah.You know, it's one of those things.I try to get to those early in the season just because, you know, a lot of them.Just the schedule gets bunched up and there aren't many of us to get to everything as it is.

1:08:33

Which in a way is why I'm happy that most of Maine hockey's home schedule is in the is before Christmas.Yeah.There you go.Are they good this year?Can they make another run?I think they, I think they can.

1:08:51

OK.Yeah, big game for football on Saturday too.Yeah, my dad.Yeah, yeah.All right.So Ryan, where can people find you?Where?Where's your where's your Patriots stuff?I know the Ellsworth American, obviously, but where's your Patriots stuff?

1:09:08

There's some website I've seen you share it and I don't remember what it is and I should have written it down.Musket.Fire, musket fire.OK, OK.Yeah, and I'm and some of my columns at the at the EAI write about the Patriots too.

1:09:24

Like yeah, if anybody has seen my my red zone column, like it.It's mostly that I put in there, but sometimes I'll add some other topics.All right, fantastic and best of luck in your marathon.

1:09:43

Thanks.I'm really, you know, excited about it.I'm just hoping for a nice safe travel day next Friday.Yeah, yeah.Got to get to the starting line healthy.That's the trick.And then the haze and the barn.

1:09:59

As they say, the emergency, the emergency packets, I'm telling you right now, those things work.I'm telling the Airborne Gummies fraternity week I.Bought a bottle of them.I'm going to try those two.They're great.I 'cause I'm like right in the middle of it for all week and I ate one before every game and I didn't get sick so highly.

1:10:23

Recommend that.Yeah, maybe in my next target run I'm going to give those a try.There you go.All right, have a great, have a great trip.Clear that 4 hour.Thank you, Sir, that.Four hour 4 hour mark.Yeah, we'll get it done.

1:10:41

OK, that's the show.Thanks to Ryan.Good luck in the marathon.Marathons man, they can be brutal.Hopefully the the marathon gods are in your corner and you don't bonk.Don't do what I did on my last marathon where I dropped my fuel at like mile 18 and like an idiot because I felt pretty good at mile 18.

1:11:05

Like an idiot.I didn't stop and go back to get it because you don't want to stop and it's a thing and I'm like I'll be OK.I was not OK.It did not go well though.Don't do that.That's my number one advice for you.Don't drop your fuel and try to do the last 8 miles with just water and Gatorade from the tables.

1:11:25

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